More Quotes II

Pertaining to Freedom and Liberty

“We are a nation that has a government—not the other way around. And this makes us special among the nations of the earth. Our government has no power except that granted to it by the people. It is time to check and reverse the growth of government which shows signs of having grown beyond the consent of the governed.”

"But slowly and subtly, surrendering first to this political pressure and then to that, our system....has turned into something completely foreign to our nature—something complicated, unfair and, in a fundamental sense, un-American. Well, my friends, the time has come for a second American revolution."

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

"Man is not free unless government is limited...As government expands, liberty contracts."

"No crisis is beyond the capacity of our people to solve; no challenge too great." 

- Ronald Reagan

"In countries under arbitrary government, the people oppressed and dispirited neither possess arms nor know how to use them. Tyrants never feel secure until they have disarmed the people. They can rely upon nothing but standing armies of mercenary troops for the support of their power. But the people of this country have arms in their hands; they are not destitute of military knowledge; every citizen is required by law to be a soldier; we are marshaled into companies, regiments, and brigades for the defence of our country. This is a circumstance which increases the power and consequence of the people; and enables them to defend their rights and privileges against every invader."

- "the Republican", Jan. 7, 1788, Connecticut Courant (Hartford Newspaper).

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"I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country."

- Nathan Hale (before being hanged by the British, 22 September 1776).

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Manus haec inimica tyrannis Einse petit placidam cum liberate quietem.
(This hand, enemy to tyrants, By the sword seeks calm peacefulness with liberty.)

- Algernon Sidney, Discourses Concerning Government

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"No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid."

"It is far more rational to suppose, that the courts were designed to be an intermediate body between the people and the legislature, in order, among other things, to keep the latter within the limits assigned to their authority. The interpretation of the laws is the proper and peculiar province of the courts. A CONSTITUTION is, in FACT, and MUST be regarded by the judges, as a FUNDAMENTAL law."

- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #78

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"Some people think that the Second Amendment is an outdated relic of an earlier time. Doubtless some also think that constitutional protections of other rights are outdated relics of earlier times. We The People own those rights regardless, unless and until We The People repeal them. For those who believe it to be outdated, the Second Amendment provides a good test of whether their allegiance is really to the Constitution of the United States, or only to their preferences in public policies and audiences. The Constitution is law, not vague aspirations, and we are obligated to protect, defend, and apply it. If the Second Amendment were truly an outdated relic, the Constitution provides a method for repeal. The Constitution does not furnish the federal courts with an eraser." 

- Andrew Kleinfeld, 9th Circuit Court Judge, opinion in dissent, Nordyke v. King; filed April 04/05/2004.

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"This is the highest wisdom that I own; freedom and life are earned by those alone who conquer them each day anew."

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."

- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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"If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed."

- George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796

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"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government."

- James Madison

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"The very purpose of a Bill of Rights is to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts."

- West Virginia State Bd. of Ed. v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 638 (1943).

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"The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give the Congress the power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretense by a state legislature. But if in blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both."

- William Rawle, 1825,  Commentator on the Constitution. Offered the position of the first Attorney General of the United States, by President Washington.

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"He that spits against the wind spits in his own face."

"If men are so wicked with religion,what would they be if without it?"

"For among us it is not necessary, as among the Hottentots, that a youth, to be raised into the company of men, should prove his manhood by beating his mother."

- Benjamin Franklin, Letter to Thomas Paine, (Concerning Paine's "Common Sense"), 1785.

"They are of the People, and return again to mix with the People, having no more durable preeminence than the different Grains of Sand in an Hourglass. Such an Assembly cannot easily become dangerous to Liberty. They are the Servants of the People, sent together to do the People's Business, and promote the public Welfare; their Powers must be sufficient, or their Duties cannot be performed. They have no profitable Appointments, but a mere Payment of daily Wages, such as are scarcely equivalent to their Expences; so that, having no Chance for great Places, and enormous Salaries or Pensions, as in some Countries, there is no triguing or bribing for Elections."

- Benjamin Franklin (letter to George Whatley, 23 May 1785).

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"In the year 1745 four or 5 thousand naked unarmed Highlanders took possession of the improved parts of this country without any opposition from the unwarlike inhabitants. | They penetrated into England and alarmed the whole nation, and had they not been opposed by a standing army they would have seized the throne with little difficulty. 200 years ago such an attempt would have rouzed the spirit of the nation. Our ancestors were brave and warlike, their minds were not enervated by cultivating arts and commerce, and they were already68 with spirit and vigor to resist the most formidable foe. It is for the same reason too that an army of 4 or 500 Europeans have often penetrated into the Mogul’s country, and that the most numerous armies of the Chinese have always been overthrown by the Tartars. In these countries the division of labour and luxury have arrived at a very high pitch, they have no standing army, and the people are all intent on the arts of peace. Holland, were its barriers removed, would be an easy prey. In the begining of this century the standing army of the Dutch was beat in the field, and the rest of the inhabitants, instead of rising in arms to defend themselves, formed a design of deserting their country and settling in the East Indies.69 A commercial country may be formidable abroad, and may defend itself by fleets and standing armies, but when they are overcome and the enemy penetrates into the country, the conquest is easy. The same observation may be made with respect to Rome and Carthage. | The Carthaginians were often victorious abroad, but when the war was carried into their own country they had no share with the Romans. These are the dissadvantages of a commercial spirit. The minds of men are contracted and rendered incapable of elevation, education is despised or at least neglected, and heroic spirit is almost utterly extinguished. To remedy these defects would be an object worthy of serious attention."

- Adam Smith, Lectures On Jurisprudence, Of Police, ed. R.. L. Meek, D. D. Raphael and P. G. Stein, vol. V of the Glasgow Edition of the Works and Correspondence of Adam Smith (Indianapolis: Liberty Fund, 1982).

"If the complete submission of America was brought about altogether by Conquest, a military government would naturally be established there; and the continuance of that submission would be supposed to depend altogether upon the continuance of the force which had originally established it. But a military government is what, of all others, the Americans hate and dread the most. While they are able to keep the field they never will submit to it; and if, in spite of their utmost resistance, it should be established, they will, for more than a century to come, be at all times ready to take arms in order to overturn it. The necessary violence of such a government would render them less able, than they otherwise would be, to contribute towards the general expence of the empire. Their dislike to it would render them less willing. Whatever could be extorted from them, and probably much more than could be extorted from them, would be spent in maintaining that military force which would be requisite to command their obedience. By our dominion over a country, which submitted so unwillingly to our authority, we could gain scarce anything but the disgrace of being supposed to oppress a people whom we have long talked of, not only as of our fellow subjects, but as of our brethren and even as of our children."

- Adam Smith, Correspondence of Adam Smith, ed. E. C. Mossner and I. S. Ross, vol. VI, Appendix B of the Glasgow Edition of the Works and Correspondence of Adam Smith (Indianapolis: Liberty Fund, 1987). [Feb., 1778].

"[] we find that allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes and it appears to produce no increase in accidental deaths. If those states which did not have right-to-carry concealed gun provisions had adopted them in 1992, approximately 1,570 murders; 4,177 rapes; and over 60,000 aggravated assaults would have been avoided yearly.

"The estimated annual gain from allowing concealed handguns is at least $6.214 billion."

 - John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard, "Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry
Concealed Handguns", v. 26, no. 1, pp. 1-68, Journal of Legal Studies, (January 1997)

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"[Being American] is a question of principles, of idealism, of character: it is not a matter of birthplace or creed or line of descent."

- Theodore Roosevelt

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"Were the Second Amendment a mere federalism (State's rights') provision, as it is not, it would assuredly appear in a place appropriate to that purpose (i.e., not in the same list with First through Eighth Amendments, but nearby the Tenth Amendment) and it would doubtless reflect the same federalism style as the Tenth.... Instead, it is cast in terms that track the provisions of the neighboring personal rights guarantees of the Bill of Rights...."

- William Van Alstyne, Perkins Professor of Law, Duke Univ., The Second Amendment, 43 Duke L.J. 1236, 1243 (1994)

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"You vote yourselves salaries out of the public funds and care only for your own personal interests; hence the state limps along." 

 - Aristophanes

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"The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded."

- Charles-Louis De Secondat

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"A man's liberties are none the less aggressed upon because those who coerce him do so in the belief that he will be benefited."

- Herbert Spencer

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"Citizens by birth or choice of a common country, that country has a right to concentrate your affections. The name of American, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations."

- George Washington

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"Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."

- Tench Coxe, Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789.

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In addition to his political career, Jefferson was also an agriculturalist, horticulturist, architect, etymologist, archaeologist, mathematician, cryptographer, surveyor, paleontologist, author, lawyer, inventor, violinist, and the founder of the University of Virginia. Many people consider Jefferson to be among the most brilliant men ever to occupy the Presidency.

"I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

- President John F. Kennedy, to forty-nine Nobel Prize winners to the White House in 1962. (Quoted from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_jefferson).

Apparently, many of the current politicians think themselves more wise than Mr. Jefferson. Who stated the following in 1824; "We established however some, although not all its [self-government] important principles. The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, (as in electing their functionaries executive and legislative, and deciding by a jury of themselves, in all judiciary cases in which any fact is involved,) or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed"...

(That would make the current Anti-Gun politicians and judicial officials rather audacious, now wouldn't it?)

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"The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms."

- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts, U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788.

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"Moreover, the primary end of safety in presence of external foes is ill-attained in proportion as there are internal animosities; such furtherance of satisfactions as industrial co-operation brings cannot be had; and there is little motive to labour for extra benefits when the products of labour are insecure. And from this early stage to comparatively late stages, we may trace in the wearing of arms, in the carrying on of family feuds, and in the taking of daily precautions for safety, the ways in which the egoistic satisfactions of each are diminished by deficiency of that altruism which checks overt injury of others."

- Herbert Spencer, The Data of Ethics (London: Williams and Norgate, 1879).

"Instances of the licentious and outrageous behavior of the military conservators of the peace still multiply upon us, some of which are of such nature, and have been carried to such lengths, as must serve fully to evince that a late vote of this town, calling upon its inhabitants to provide themselves with arms for their defense, was a measure as prudent as it was legal: such violences are always to be apprehended from military troops, when quartered in the body of a populous city; but more especially so, when they are led to believe that they are become necessary to awe a spirit of rebellion, injuriously said to be existing therein. It is a natural right which the people have reserved to themselves, confirmed by the Bill of Rights, to keep arms for their own defence; and as Mr. Blackstone observes, it is to be made use of when the sanctions of society and law are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression."

- ""Boston, March 17," in New York Journal, Supplement, April 13,1796 at 1, Col.3, quoted in Stephen Halbrook, A Right to Bear Arms: State and Federal Bills of Rights and Constitutional Guarantees"

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"On every question of construction carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the one in which it was passed."

- Thomas Jefferson

(Well now, isn't that special? Hey S.C.O.T.U.S., think you should hear what Tom has to say!)

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"The fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defense, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute I W. & M. st.2. c.2. and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression."

- William Blackstone, 1 Commentaries on the Laws of England 136

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"An enemy of liberty is no friend of mine. I do not owe respect to anyone who would enslave me by government force, nor is it wise for such a person to expect it." 

- Isaiah Amberay

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"We might also consider whether, and to what degree, dependence on essentially permanent government programs serves to create a large number of Americans who are 'united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adverse to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.' That is the definition of what James Madison in Federalist 10 called a faction, and a majority faction is what the American Founders thought to be the greatest threat to republican government."

- Matthew Spalding, Ph.D., (Heritage Foundation's 2005 Index of Dependency)

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 “Mr Lane explained to me his views of the necessity, as he believed, of making a large portion of Western Missouri a desert waste, in order that Kansas might be secure against future invasion. He proposed to tender to the District Commander the services of all the armed citizens of Kansas to aid in executing this policy. This I informed him was impossible.

“That what-ever measures of this kind it might be necessary to adopt, must be executed by U. S. troops. That irresponsible citizens could not be entrusted with the discharge of such duties.

“He then insisted that the people who might assemble at Paola should be permitted to enter Missouri "in search of stolen property" and desired to place them under my command, he, Gen. Lane pledging himself that they should strictly confine themselves to such search, abstaining entirely from all unlawful acts.”

- Maj. Genl. John M. Schofield, Letter to Edward D. Townsend [With Endorsement by Lincoln], September 14, 1863.

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"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter, and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
 
- Abraham Lincoln, 1809-65

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"Here every private person is authorized to arm himself, and on the strenght of this authority, I do not deny the inhabitants had a right to arm themselves at that time, for their defense, not for offence..."

- John Adams, Lead Defence Attorney, at the trial of the British soldiers on trial for the Boston Massacre, ("L. Kinvin Wroth and Hiller B. Zobel, ed., Legal Papers of John Adams" 3:248)

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"He put out the Council Fire which our fathers and his fathers had lighted up and told us he would have no other fire than a Gunpowder fire. This Brothers made our hearts heavy we were sorry to see and to hear such foolish Wickedness. Then Brothers we looked round and saw there was no other help for us but to brighten our guns and sharpen our swords and defend ourselves like men."

- The Above talk was delivered at Easton in Pennsylvania by sundry Commissioners appointed by the United States to hold a treaty with a number of Indian chiefs in Behalf of the Six nations and their Allies.

February the 6 1777 and in the fourth year of the Continental Union.
Attested Thos Payne Sec.
A true Copy GB.

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"No one can read our Constitution without concluding that the people who wrote it wanted their government severely limited; the words "no" and "not" employed in restraint of government power occur 24 times in the first seven articles of the Constitution and 22 more times in the Bill of Rights."

- Edmund A. Opitz

"Our institutions are essentially pacific. Peace and friendly intercourse with all nations are as much the desire of our Government as they are the interest of our people. But these objects are not to be permanently secured by surrendering the rights of our citizens, or permitting solemn treaties for their indemnity in cases of flagrant wrong, to be abrogated or set aside...."
 
"...We are in no danger from violations of the Constitution by which encroachments are made upon the personal rights of the citizen. The sentence of condemnation long since pronounced by the American people upon acts of that character, will, I doubt not, continue to prove as salutary in its effects, as it is irreversible in its nature. But against the dangers of unconstitutional acts which, instead of menacing the vengeance of offended authority, proffer local advantages, and bring in their train the patronage of the Government, we are, I fear, not so safe. To suppose that because our Government has been instituted for the benefit of the people, it must therefore have the power to do whatever may seem to conduce to the public good, is an error into which even honest minds are too apt to fall. In yielding themselves to this fallacy, they overlook the great considerations in which the Federal Constitution was founded. They forget that, in consequence of the conceded diversities in the interest and condition of the different States, it was foreseen at the period of its adoption, that, although a particular measure of the Government might be beneficial and proper in one State, it might be the reverse in another--that it was for this reason the States would not consent to make a grant to the Federal Government of the general and usual powers of Government, but of such only as were specifically enumerated, and the probable effects of which they could, as they thought, safely anticipate: and they forget also the paramount obligation upon all to abide by the compact then so solemnly, and, as it was hoped, so firmly established. In addition to the dangers to the Constitution, springing from the sources I have stated, there has been one which was perhaps greater than all. I allude to the materials which this subject has afforded for sinister appeals to selfish feelings, and the opinion heretofore so extensively entertained of its adaptation to the purposes of personal ambition. With such stimulants, it is not surprising that the acts and pretensions of the Federal Government in this behalf should sometimes have been carried to an alarming extent...."

- President Andrew Jackson, Message to the U.S. Senate, Dec. 2, 1834

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"Human nature itself is evermore an advocate for liberty. There is also in human nature a resentment of injury, and indignation against wrong. A love of truth and a veneration of virtue. These amiable passions, are the "latent spark"... If the people are capable of understanding, seeing and feeling the differences between true and false, right and wrong, virtue and vice, to what better principle can the friends of mankind apply than to the sense of this difference?"

- John Adams, the Novanglus, 1775

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"Arms, women, and books should be looked at daily."

- Dutch Proverb

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"If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed in my country I never would lay down my arms, - never! never! never!"

- William Pitt, Earl of Chatham

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"Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments."
 
- Frederick the Great

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"Freedom hath a thousand charms to show, That slaves however contented never know."
 
- Cowper

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"He who endeavors to serve, to benefit, and improve the world, is like a swimmer, who struggles against a rapid current, in a river lashed into angry waves by the winds. Often they roar over his head, often they beat him back and baffle him. Most men yield to the stress of the current... Only here and there the stout, strong heart and vigorous arms struggle on toward ultimate success."
 
- Albert Pike

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"The fascination of shooting as a sport depends almost wholly on whether you are at the right or wrong end of the gun."
 
- P.G. Wodehouse

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"When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs. When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent. When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun. Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all."
 
- Tim Freeman

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"I served in World War II against the Axis powers. But during a speech, when I drew an analogy between singling out innocent Jews and singling out innocent gun owners, I was called an anti-Semite. Everyone I know knows I would never raise a closed fist against my country. But when I asked an audience to oppose this cultural persecution, I was compared to Timothy McVeigh."

- Charlton Heston, In a speech to the Harvard Law School on February 16, 1999

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"The 2nd amendment was never intended to allow private citizens to 'keep and bear arms.' If it had, there would have been wording such as 'the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'"
  
- Ken Konecki, July 27, 1992

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"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
(A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand).
  
- Seneca (Seneca the Elder), Letters to Lucilius

Benjamin Franklin On the Federal Constitution

Speaking before the Convention in Philadelphia, 1787

"I CONFESS that I do not entirely approve of this Constitution at present; but, sir, I am not sure I shall never approve of it, for, having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise. It is therefore that, the older I grow, the more apt I am to doubt my own judgment of others. Most men, indeed, as well as most sects in religion, think themselves in possession of all truth, and that wherever others differ from them, it is so far error. Steele, a Protestant, in a dedication, tells the pope that the only difference between our two churches in their opinions of the certainty of their doctrine is, the Romish Church is infallible, and the Church of England is never in the wrong. But, tho many private persons think almost as highly of their own infallibility as of that of their sect, few express it so naturally as a certain French lady, who, in a little dispute with her sister said: "But I meet with nobody but myself that is always in the right."

In these sentiments, sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults—if they are such—because I think a general government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered; and I believe, further, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other. I doubt, too, whether any other convention we can obtain may be able to make a better Constitution; for, when you assemble a number of men, to have the advantage of their joint wisdom, you inevitably assemble with those men all their prejudices, their passions, their errors of opinion, their local interests, and their selfish views. From such an assembly can a perfect production be expected?

It therefore astonishes me, sir, to find this system approaching so near to perfection as it does; and I think it will astonish our enemies, who are waiting with confidence to hear that our counsels are confounded like those of the builders of Babel, and that our States are on the point of separation, only to meet hereafter for the purpose of cutting one another's throats. Thus I consent, sir, to this Constitution, because I expect no better, and because I am not sure that it is not the best. The opinions I have had of its errors I sacrifice to the public good. I have never whispered a syllable of them abroad. Within these walls they were born, and here they shall die. If every one of us, in returning to our constituents, were to report the objections he has had to it, and endeavor to gain partizans in support of them, we might prevent its being generally received, and thereby lose all the salutary effects and great advantages resulting naturally in our favor among foreign nations, as well as among ourselves, from our real or apparent unanimity. Much of the strength and efficiency of any government, in procuring and securing happiness to the people, depends on opinion, on the general opinion of the goodness of that government, as well as of the wisdom and integrity of its governors. I hope, therefore, for our own sakes, as a part of the people, and for the sake of our posterity, that we shall act heartily and unanimously in recommending this Constitution wherever our influence may extend, and turn our future thoughts and endeavors to the means of having it well administered.

On the whole, sir, I can not help expressing a wish that every member of the convention who may still have objections to it, would, with me, on this occasion, doubt a little of his own infallibility, and, to make manifest our unanimity, put his name to this instrument."

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"There is no way in hell, that some 'beached whales' in Washington, are going to to dictate to me how to live my life. Or, keep me from defending my life and the lives of those that I hold dear. After all, the courts have ruled that it is NOT their duty to protect me and mine. What would give any sane person cause to listen to what they think anyways? Can someone point out a clear indication of reasonable thought emanating from them? Is there any reason whatsoever, to consider their reasoning as sound? Or, just? Especially, since they no longer practice the Fundamental Principles on which Our Country was Founded upon!

How about we roll the 'beached whales' back into the murky waters from whence they came? Then perhaps, we Americans can get back to living our lives in Freedom."

"Capitalism is GOOD, only when practised with the highest degree of Ethical and Moral Standards. This MUST include an honest desire for the BEST INTERESTS of the Country as a whole. Anything else is Avarice!"

"A government that does not trust its people, is a government that should not to be trusted by its people. Especially, with a government that is supposedly to be of, by, and for the people. That lack of trust, is entirely diametrical to Republican Principles of government! Oh, yeah, you knew that, right? That We are a Republic?"

"There can be nothing worse than one who is willfully blind. Especially so, when they announce their error to others and hold it out as fact. To err may be human, but to continue in error is ignorance at it's ultimate height."

 - EDQ

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